Job Vacancy Trend Daily Rate Trend Daily Rate Histogram Hourly Rate Trend Hourly Rate Histogram Job Locations Contract Project Manager Skill Set
Period
to 24 July 2017

The median contractor rate for a Project Manager was £450 per day in advertised job vacancies during the 6 months to 24 July 2017.

The first table below provides contractor rate benchmarking and summary statistics including a comparison to same period in the previous 2 years.

Note that daily and hourly rates are treated separately in these statistics. When calculating contractor rate percentiles, daily rates are never derived from quoted hourly rates or vice versa.

Project Manager
UK
6 months to
24 Jul 2017		 Same period 2016 Same period 2015
Rank 21 18 15
Rank change year-on-year -3 -3 -1
Contract jobs requiring a Project Manager 6745 8575 10013
As % of all contract IT jobs advertised in the UK 7.09% 7.79% 8.80%
As % of the Job Titles category 7.48% 8.20% 9.28%
Number of daily rates quoted 4767 6034 6757
UK median daily rate £450 £450 £425
Median daily rate % change year-on-year - +5.88% -
10th Percentile £313 £313 £310
90th Percentile £625 £600 £594
UK excluding London median daily rate £425 £425 £413
% change year-on-year - +3.03% +3.13%
Number of hourly rates quoted 64 42 88
UK median hourly rate £33.25 £33.75 £36.78
Median hourly rate % change year-on-year -1.48% -8.23% +5.07%
10th Percentile £19.25 £18.99 £21.43
90th Percentile £56.25 £67.63 £52.73
UK excluding London median hourly rate £33.25 £32.50 £36.50
% change year-on-year +2.31% -10.96% +1.39%

The next table is for comparison with the above and includes summary statistics for all job roles in contract job vacancies. Most job vacancies include a discernible job title. As such, the figures in the first row provide an indication of the number of contract jobs in our overall sample.

Contract IT Job Roles
UK
Contract job vacancies with a job title containing a recognized job role 90163 104539 107877
As % of all contract IT job vacancies advertised in the UK 94.82% 95.02% 94.84%
Number of daily rates quoted 58468 68039 66795
UK median daily rate £430 £425 £400
Median daily rate % change year-on-year +1.18% +6.25% +1.01%
10th Percentile £263 £256 £233
90th Percentile £619 £600 £588
UK excluding London median daily rate £400 £388 £375
% change year-on-year +3.23% +3.33% +7.14%
Number of hourly rates quoted 2893 3098 4169
UK median hourly rate £18.50 £19.00 £17.50
Median hourly rate % change year-on-year -2.63% +8.57% +2.94%
10th Percentile £10.86 £10.43 £10.50
90th Percentile £50.00 £47.39 £45.00
UK excluding London median hourly rate £17.50 £19.00 £17.00
% change year-on-year -7.89% +11.76% +2.26%

Project Manager
Job Vacancy Trend

Job postings that featured Project Manager in the job title as a percentage of all IT jobs advertised.

Job vacancy trend for Project Manager in the UK

Project Manager
Contractor Daily Rate Trend

This chart provides the 3-month moving average for daily rates quoted in contract jobs citing Project Manager.

Contractor daily rate trend for Project Manager in the UK

Project Manager
Contractor Daily Rate Histogram

The daily rate distribution of IT jobs citing Project Manager over the 6 months to 24 July 2017.

Contractor daily rate histogram for Project Manager in the UK

Project Manager
Contractor Hourly Rate Trend

This chart provides the 3-month moving average for contractor hourly rates quoted in IT jobs citing Project Manager.

Contractor hourly rate trend for Project Manager in the UK

Project Manager
Contractor Hourly Rate Histogram

The hourly rate distribution of IT jobs citing Project Manager over the 6 months to 24 July 2017.

Contractor hourly rate histogram for Project Manager in the UK

Project Manager
Top 18 Contract Locations

The table below looks at the demand and provides a guide to the median contractor rates quoted in IT jobs citing Project Manager within the UK over the 6 months to 24 July 2017. The 'Rank Change' column provides an indication of the change in demand within each location based on the same 6 month period last year.

Location Rank Change
on Same Period
Last Year		 Matching
Contract
IT Job Ads		 Median
Daily Rate
Past 6 Months		 Median Daily Rate
% Change
on Same Period
Last Year		 Live
Job
Vacancies
England -3 6279 £450 - 401
UK excluding London -2 3743 £425 - 264
London -4 2870 £500 +1.52% 162
South East -1 1220 £450 +2.86% 64
North of England -5 713 £425 +6.18% 72
Midlands +2 668 £425 - 53
South West +4 421 £400 - 23
West Midlands +7 409 £425 - 32
North West -10 379 £425 +1.19% 41
East of England -12 340 £438 +2.94% 25
Scotland -4 313 £425 +3.03% 19
Yorkshire -3 269 £425 +3.34% 29
East Midlands -6 239 £425 - 21
North East +1 68 £400 +14.29% 2
Wales +14 65 £400 +8.11% 6
Northern Ireland -45 8 £328 -2.96% 2
Isle of Man - 3 £450 -
Channel Islands -1 1 £500 -

Project Manager Skill Set
Top 30 Co-occurring IT Skills

For the 6 months to 24 July 2017, Project Manager contract jobs required the following IT skills in order of popularity. The figures indicate the number co-occurrences and its proportion to all contract ads featuring Project Manager in the job title.

1 3241 (48.05%) Project Management
2 2090 (30.99%) Finance
3 1783 (26.43%) PRINCE2
4 1675 (24.83%) Stakeholder Management
5 1443 (21.39%) Agile Software Development
6 742 (11.00%) Migration
7 682 (10.11%) Banking
8 562 (8.33%) Change Management
9 544 (8.07%) Microsoft
10 534 (7.92%) Retail
11 453 (6.72%) PMI Certification
12 450 (6.67%) Security Cleared
13 424 (6.29%) Microsoft Project
14 413 (6.12%) PMP
15 395 (5.86%) ITIL
16 376 (5.57%) Risk Management
17 362 (5.37%) SAP
18 348 (5.16%) Scrum
19 346 (5.13%) Waterfall
20 338 (5.01%) PRINCE2 Certification
21 332 (4.92%) CRM
22 321 (4.76%) PMO
23 312 (4.63%) Project Planning
24 310 (4.60%) SC Cleared
25 305 (4.52%) Data Centre
26 297 (4.40%) Programme Management
27 295 (4.37%) Analytical Skills
28 294 (4.36%) Telecoms
29 278 (4.12%) PRINCE2 Practitioner
30 274 (4.06%) ERP

Project Manager Skill Set
Co-occurring IT Skills by Category

The follow tables expand on the table above by listing co-occurrences grouped by category. The same job type, locality and period is covered with up to 20 co-occurrences shown in each of the following categories:

Application Platforms
1 179 (2.65%) SharePoint
2 62 (0.92%) CMS
3 52 (0.77%) Skype for Business
4 40 (0.59%) Confluence
5 30 (0.44%) WebSphere
6 22 (0.33%) BizTalk Server
6 22 (0.33%) MS Exchange
7 19 (0.28%) SAS
8 17 (0.25%) MS Project Server
9 15 (0.22%) SharePoint 2013
10 11 (0.16%) IIS
11 10 (0.15%) Drupal
12 8 (0.12%) Exchange Server 2010
13 7 (0.10%) Apache Spark
13 7 (0.10%) Documentum
13 7 (0.10%) Sitecore CMS
14 6 (0.089%) Apache
14 6 (0.089%) JBoss
14 6 (0.089%) Oracle SOA Suite
15 5 (0.074%) Exchange Server 2013
Applications
1 424 (6.29%) Microsoft Project
2 235 (3.48%) Microsoft Office
3 188 (2.79%) Microsoft Excel
4 125 (1.85%) Microsoft PowerPoint
5 104 (1.54%) MS Visio
6 17 (0.25%) Spreadsheet
7 5 (0.074%) Windchill
8 4 (0.059%) AutoCAD
8 4 (0.059%) Open Workbench
9 3 (0.044%) Chatbot
10 2 (0.030%) Doxygen
11 1 (0.015%) Adobe Creative Suite
11 1 (0.015%) Mingle
11 1 (0.015%) Simulink
Business Applications
1 110 (1.63%) Dynamics CRM
2 36 (0.53%) Dynamics AX
3 29 (0.43%) Oracle EBS
4 23 (0.34%) SAP ERP
5 20 (0.30%) Oracle EBS R12
5 20 (0.30%) Unit4 Business World
6 18 (0.27%) SAP S/4HANA
7 16 (0.24%) Actimize
7 16 (0.24%) Maximo
8 15 (0.22%) Dynamics NAV
9 14 (0.21%) SAP FI
10 13 (0.19%) thinkFolio
11 12 (0.18%) NetSuite
11 12 (0.18%) Oracle ERP
11 12 (0.18%) Primavera
12 10 (0.15%) SAP CO
12 10 (0.15%) SAP FI/CO
12 10 (0.15%) SAP HR
13 9 (0.13%) Sage X3
14 8 (0.12%) Salesforce.com CRM
Cloud Services
1 274 (4.06%) Office 365
2 135 (2.00%) Microsoft Azure
3 83 (1.23%) Amazon AWS
4 52 (0.77%) SaaS
5 33 (0.49%) Dynamics 365
6 31 (0.46%) IaaS
6 31 (0.46%) SuccessFactors
7 21 (0.31%) OneDrive
8 17 (0.25%) PaaS
9 12 (0.18%) Yammer
10 11 (0.16%) Cloud Computing
11 9 (0.13%) Google Analytics
12 8 (0.12%) Veeva
13 7 (0.10%) G Suite
14 6 (0.089%) Trello
15 5 (0.074%) GitHub
15 5 (0.074%) Salesforce Sales Cloud
16 4 (0.059%) Mimecast
16 4 (0.059%) Taleo
17 3 (0.044%) Boomi
Communications & Networking
1 166 (2.46%) WAN
2 157 (2.33%) LAN
3 95 (1.41%) Wi-Fi
4 65 (0.96%) Skype
5 59 (0.87%) Firewall
6 56 (0.83%) Internet
7 52 (0.77%) VoIP
8 47 (0.70%) Intranet
9 40 (0.59%) Wireless
10 35 (0.52%) Unified Communications
11 33 (0.49%) Network Security
12 32 (0.47%) SAN
13 27 (0.40%) Broadband
14 26 (0.39%) 4G
15 25 (0.37%) SMS
16 18 (0.27%) MPLS
16 18 (0.27%) VPN
17 14 (0.21%) DNS
18 13 (0.19%) IP Telephony
19 11 (0.16%) 3G
Database & Business Intelligence
1 94 (1.39%) Data Warehouse
2 53 (0.79%) Big Data
3 43 (0.64%) SQL Server
4 25 (0.37%) SAP HANA
5 21 (0.31%) BusinessObjects
6 16 (0.24%) Hadoop
6 16 (0.24%) Oracle Reports
6 16 (0.24%) Power BI
7 14 (0.21%) GIS
8 13 (0.19%) SAP BW
8 13 (0.19%) SQL Server Integration Services
9 12 (0.18%) DB2
9 12 (0.18%) SQL Server Reporting Services
10 11 (0.16%) Data Lake
10 11 (0.16%) Relational Database
11 9 (0.13%) Crystal Reports
11 9 (0.13%) MS Access
12 8 (0.12%) Blockchain
12 8 (0.12%) BusinessObjects Business Intelligence
12 8 (0.12%) Electronic Patient Records
Development Applications
1 101 (1.50%) JIRA
2 9 (0.13%) Team Foundation Server
3 6 (0.089%) Git (software)
3 6 (0.089%) Jenkins
4 4 (0.059%) Hudson
4 4 (0.059%) Talend Open Studio
4 4 (0.059%) Visual Studio
5 3 (0.044%) Bitbucket
5 3 (0.044%) SonarQube
5 3 (0.044%) Sonatype Nexus
6 2 (0.030%) Eclipse
6 2 (0.030%) JIRA Agile
6 2 (0.030%) LSMW
6 2 (0.030%) Oracle APEX
6 2 (0.030%) Rational DOORS
6 2 (0.030%) Selenium
6 2 (0.030%) Subversion
6 2 (0.030%) Visual Studio Team System
7 1 (0.015%) Cucumber
7 1 (0.015%) Oracle Forms
General
1 2090 (30.99%) Finance
2 682 (10.11%) Banking
3 534 (7.92%) Retail
4 294 (4.36%) Telecoms
5 233 (3.45%) Marketing
6 221 (3.28%) Investment Banking
7 184 (2.73%) Legal
8 148 (2.19%) Manufacturing
9 121 (1.79%) Front Office
10 84 (1.25%) Advertising
11 81 (1.20%) Back Office
11 81 (1.20%) Law
12 69 (1.02%) Pharmaceutical
13 64 (0.95%) Retail Banking
14 56 (0.83%) Publishing
15 53 (0.79%) Billing
16 42 (0.62%) Automotive
17 38 (0.56%) Financial Institution
18 34 (0.50%) Electronics
18 34 (0.50%) Local Government
Libraries, Frameworks & Software Standards
1 42 (0.62%) .NET
2 31 (0.46%) Middleware
3 24 (0.36%) Web Services
4 22 (0.33%) XML
5 18 (0.27%) Oracle Fusion
6 13 (0.19%) HTML
7 12 (0.18%) EDI
8 10 (0.15%) J2EE
9 9 (0.13%) REST
9 9 (0.13%) Velocity
10 8 (0.12%) JSON
11 7 (0.10%) FIX Protocol
12 6 (0.089%) Natural Language Processing
12 6 (0.089%) SOAP
12 6 (0.089%) Spring
13 5 (0.074%) Java EE
13 5 (0.074%) Struts
14 4 (0.059%) Mason
15 3 (0.044%) Django
15 3 (0.044%) jQuery
Miscellaneous
1 305 (4.52%) Data Centre
2 295 (4.37%) Analytical Skills
3 231 (3.42%) PMI
4 151 (2.24%) Management Information System
5 99 (1.47%) Virtual Team
6 86 (1.28%) NHS
7 77 (1.14%) Foreign Exchange (FX)
7 77 (1.14%) User Experience
8 69 (1.02%) FMCG
9 58 (0.86%) Greenfield Project
10 50 (0.74%) Derivative
11 49 (0.73%) Mobile App
12 44 (0.65%) EPoS
12 44 (0.65%) Fixed Income
13 43 (0.64%) Computer Science
14 40 (0.59%) Fintech
15 35 (0.52%) Equities
16 30 (0.44%) Reference Data
17 28 (0.42%) Enterprise Software
18 27 (0.40%) Life Science
Operating Systems
1 259 (3.84%) Windows
2 130 (1.93%) Windows 10
3 50 (0.74%) Linux
4 49 (0.73%) Unix
5 32 (0.47%) Windows Server
6 31 (0.46%) Windows 7
7 17 (0.25%) Android
8 14 (0.21%) Windows Server 2012
9 13 (0.19%) AIX
9 13 (0.19%) Solaris
10 12 (0.18%) Windows Server 2008
11 11 (0.16%) Apple iOS
12 6 (0.089%) Windows Server 2003
12 6 (0.089%) zOS
13 3 (0.044%) OS/2
14 2 (0.030%) MVS
14 2 (0.030%) Red Hat Enterprise Linux
14 2 (0.030%) SUSE Linux Enterprise Server
14 2 (0.030%) Windows 8
14 2 (0.030%) Windows XP
Processes & Methodologies
1 3241 (48.05%) Project Management
2 1783 (26.43%) PRINCE2
3 1675 (24.83%) Stakeholder Management
4 1443 (21.39%) Agile Software Development
5 742 (11.00%) Migration
6 562 (8.33%) Change Management
7 395 (5.86%) ITIL
8 376 (5.57%) Risk Management
9 348 (5.16%) Scrum
10 346 (5.13%) Waterfall
11 332 (4.92%) CRM
12 312 (4.63%) Project Planning
13 297 (4.40%) Programme Management
14 274 (4.06%) ERP
15 261 (3.87%) Stakeholder Engagement
16 252 (3.74%) Business Analysis
17 228 (3.38%) E-Commerce
18 224 (3.32%) SDLC
19 214 (3.17%) Supplier Management
20 202 (2.99%) Project Governance
Programming Languages
1 97 (1.44%) SQL
2 71 (1.05%) C
3 68 (1.01%) Java
4 22 (0.33%) JavaScript
5 15 (0.22%) Python
6 13 (0.19%) C#
7 12 (0.18%) PHP
8 10 (0.15%) VBA
9 6 (0.089%) C++
10 5 (0.074%) PowerShell
10 5 (0.074%) Ruby
10 5 (0.074%) T-SQL
11 4 (0.059%) Perl
12 3 (0.044%) Apex Code
12 3 (0.044%) MATLAB
12 3 (0.044%) VBScript
13 2 (0.030%) ABAP
13 2 (0.030%) COBOL
13 2 (0.030%) R
13 2 (0.030%) Scala
Qualifications
1 453 (6.72%) PMI Certification
2 450 (6.67%) Security Cleared
3 413 (6.12%) PMP
4 338 (5.01%) PRINCE2 Certification
5 310 (4.60%) SC Cleared
6 278 (4.12%) PRINCE2 Practitioner
7 266 (3.94%) Degree
8 119 (1.76%) APMP
9 81 (1.20%) DV Cleared
10 67 (0.99%) BPSS Clearance
11 50 (0.74%) ITIL Certification
12 46 (0.68%) ISEB
13 30 (0.44%) Cisco Certification
13 30 (0.44%) CISSP
14 24 (0.36%) CTC Cleared
15 17 (0.25%) CISM
16 16 (0.24%) CCNP
16 16 (0.24%) Computer Science Degree
17 13 (0.19%) CCNA
18 11 (0.16%) HND
Quality Assurance & Compliance
1 321 (4.76%) PMO
2 179 (2.65%) GDPR
3 167 (2.48%) QA
4 124 (1.84%) MiFID
5 45 (0.67%) PCI DSS
6 32 (0.47%) ISO/IEC 27001
7 30 (0.44%) SLA
8 28 (0.42%) Disclosure Scotland
9 27 (0.40%) EMIR
10 26 (0.39%) Data Quality
11 20 (0.30%) Dodd-Frank
12 18 (0.27%) Solvency II
13 17 (0.25%) GxP
14 16 (0.24%) PMBOK
15 14 (0.21%) Sarbanes-Oxley
16 11 (0.16%) JSP 440
16 11 (0.16%) SEPA
17 9 (0.13%) FATCA
18 8 (0.12%) Cyber Essentials
18 8 (0.12%) ISO 9000
System Software
1 87 (1.29%) Active Directory
2 29 (0.43%) VMware Infrastructure
3 15 (0.22%) Virtual Servers
4 9 (0.13%) Virtual Desktop
4 9 (0.13%) XenApp
5 8 (0.12%) Hyper-V
6 7 (0.10%) VMware ESXi
7 6 (0.089%) Citrix Presentation Server
8 5 (0.074%) Firmware
8 5 (0.074%) Virtual Machines
9 3 (0.044%) BitLocker
9 3 (0.044%) Microsoft Virtual Server
9 3 (0.044%) XenDesktop
10 2 (0.030%) Tivoli Workload Scheduler
10 2 (0.030%) vSphere
11 1 (0.015%) DFS Replication
11 1 (0.015%) Docker
11 1 (0.015%) EMC RecoverPoint
11 1 (0.015%) IAG
11 1 (0.015%) vCloud
Systems Management
1 47 (0.70%) SCCM
2 14 (0.21%) MOM
3 12 (0.18%) Microsoft Intune
4 9 (0.13%) Cisco CUCM
5 8 (0.12%) AirWatch
6 4 (0.059%) Cisco IPCC
6 4 (0.059%) Systems Management Server (SMS)
6 4 (0.059%) Tivoli
7 3 (0.044%) BladeLogic
7 3 (0.044%) Cisco UCCE
7 3 (0.044%) Opscode Chef
7 3 (0.044%) QRadar
7 3 (0.044%) SCOM
7 3 (0.044%) WSUS
8 2 (0.030%) BMC PATROL
8 2 (0.030%) McAfee ePO
8 2 (0.030%) TeamSite
8 2 (0.030%) XenMobile
9 1 (0.015%) Forefront Identity Manager
9 1 (0.015%) TrustSec
Vendors
1 544 (8.07%) Microsoft
2 362 (5.37%) SAP
3 233 (3.45%) Oracle
4 143 (2.12%) Cisco
5 92 (1.36%) Salesforce.com
6 70 (1.04%) VMware
7 61 (0.90%) Citrix
8 48 (0.71%) Workday
9 36 (0.53%) IBM
10 35 (0.52%) Avaya
11 29 (0.43%) Motorola
12 27 (0.40%) Google
12 27 (0.40%) iManage
12 27 (0.40%) JD Edwards
13 26 (0.39%) Tableau
14 24 (0.36%) Remedy
14 24 (0.36%) ServiceNow
15 20 (0.30%) Adobe
15 20 (0.30%) Concur
16 19 (0.28%) PeopleSoft
429 Project Manager job vacancies Nationwide
Capital Projects Manager - Deputy Head
London
ReThink Recruitment
Posted: 15 hours ago
IT Project Manager - Securities Services (contract)
City, London
McGregor Boyall
Rate: £500 - £650 per day
Posted: 9 hours ago
HR Transformation Project Manager
Edinburgh, Midlothian
Hydrogen Group
Rate: £400.00 - £500.00 per day
Posted: 12 hours ago
Cloud Migration Project Manager (inside IR35)
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
Reed Technology
Rate: £350 - £420 per day
Posted: 20 hours ago
Technical Project Manager
West London
Experis Ltd
Posted: 19 hours ago
IT Project Manager
Merseyside
Rullion
Posted: 17 hours ago
Senior Project Manager(Vendor Management)
Edinburgh, Midlothian
Lorien Resourcing
Posted: 3 days ago
Project Manager-Security Services-Middle Office-IT-Ldn-£650pd
London
McGregor Boyall
Rate: £60 - £650 per day
Posted: 12 hours ago
Project Manager
Solihull, West Midlands (County)
Rullion
Rate: £400 - £450 per annum
Posted: 6 days ago
Project Manager
Aldershot, Hampshire
Rullion
Rate: £450 - £500 per annum
Posted: 6 days ago
IT Project Manager
London
HAYS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Rate: £400.00 - £450.00 per day
Posted: 12 hours ago
Project Manager
Banbury, Oxfordshire
Hydrogen Group
Rate: £350.00 - £400.00 per day
Posted: 3 days ago
IT Project Manager (banking security services) -up to 650pd
City, London
McGregor Boyall
Rate: £500 - £650 per day
Posted: 9 hours ago
CRM & Scrum Project Manager
West London
Lorien Resourcing
Rate: £500 - £512 per annum
Posted: 12 hours ago
Project Manager
Edinburgh, Midlothian
Hydrogen Group
Rate: £300.00 - £360.00 per day
Posted: 3 days ago
Project Manager - Concur / KDS / Travel & Expenses deployment
South West London
ReThink Recruitment
Rate: £500 - £550 per day
Posted: 5 days ago
Project Manager, Energy Trading,
London
Harvey Nash plc
Rate: £600 per day
Posted: 3 days ago
Lead Project Manager
London
Hydrogen Group
Rate: £450 - £500 per day
Posted: 12 hours ago
Commodities IT Project Manager
London
TEKsystems
Rate: £550 - £600 per annum
Posted: 3 days ago
Infrastructure Project Manager
London
Roc Search
Rate: £500 - £550 per day
Posted: 12 hours ago
Project Manager
City, London
Eames Consulting
Rate: £550 - £650 per day
Posted: 19 hours ago
Project Manager
Cardiff, South Glamorgan
HAYS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Rate: £400.00 - £450.00 per day
Posted: 3 days ago
Project Manager - SC Cleared
Hatfield, Hertfordshire
LA International
Rate: £350 - £400 per day + Please quote
Posted: 15 hours ago
Project Manager - AD & Cloud / Charity / Local government
Kent
ReThink Recruitment
Rate: £500.00 per day
Posted: 4 days ago
Project Manager - Insurance, London Market Insurance, Prince2,
City, London
I3
Rate: £550 - £625 per day
Posted: 4 days ago
Service Delivery/ Project Manager
Hampshire
TEKsystems
Rate: £500 - £525 per day
Posted: 3 days ago
Project Manager - Datacentre Experience
Middlesex
Lorien Resourcing
Rate: £340 per annum
Posted: 11 hours ago
Data Cabling Project Manager
Berkshire
Roc Search
Posted: 6 days ago
BSS Project Manager
Basingstoke, Hampshire
Redrock Consulting Ltd
Rate: Market Rate
Posted: 5 days ago
Implementation Project Manager
Berkshire
TEKsystems
Rate: £400 - £500 per day + negotiable
Posted: 10 hours ago